![]() Seems like given a high churn platform where nearly all user interactions happen through browser extensions, people might be setting expectations beyond what they're willing to pay for, especially given the other major concurrent complaint is moving to the subscription model.Ĭlick to expand.If I stop paying Agilebits for upgrades tomorrow, my version 7 stand-alone license will continue to work for as long as I need it to… if I stop paying AB’s subscription fee tomorrow, the software stops working shortly thereafter. The same appears to be happening for others like Lastpass etc. ![]() Oh, for everyone threatening to switch to BitWarden: it's also Electron Constant rewrites detract from things customers value more. ![]() The only reason they're not Electron is, I am convinced, because they can unilaterally maintain support for deprecated APIs indefinitely, or at least until they're funded for the rewrite. We also see this with Apple's own applications, especially the complex ones, which often end up as very late adopters of their own toolkits. That's what we saw here with the 1Password SwiftUI port. If you want fast iteration of client APIs/languages and little investment in legacy support, developers will inevitably begin to rely on middleware layers to keep the churn of their codebase to a manageable level. Instead, this is the inevitable consequence of excessive API churn with poor backwards compatibility. There's no path forward for a password manager, let alone an enterprise-targeted one, without Mac support. So, Occam's Razor and all that: If AB says most people chose subscriptions, that makes perfect sense to me.Ĭlick to expand.Not clear to me this is reasoning correctly about the problem. But given the amount of angst this move has generated by a vocal few, clearly 1Password is a good product that people like-switching to one of the many alternatives to avoid a specific payment system involves losing something "nice." I doubt most people who don't feel quite so passionate about licensing/payment methods would spend even a second thinking about giving up a product that otherwise does exactly what they want. I completely respect those of you who chafe at the idea of regular payments to keep using software. People can like what they want and I'm not telling anyone what licensing terms for software they should accept. Sometimes for genuine privacy reasons, sometimes for more cynical ones of national control including censorship, but whatever the case with 1P pivoting more towards big business as a core revenue stream they've got to pay attention just like every single other cloud player in the world.īecause not everyone sees subscriptions as the One True Evil? I have yet to see a developer anywhere say, "yeah, I converted my product to subscriptions and my business went straight to hell, lost all my customers." Maybe those of us who like and appreciate subscriptions for most software are as much a minority as those who hate them, but I honestly don't think the vast majority of people care one way or another. Still, at this point data ownership is no longer such a niche concern. And of course, if they do do an enterprise-only version not impossible it leaks and then is just available pirated anyway. That'd be the ideal and could redeem things a lot, even with shitty electron. Conversely they could make it an option for anyone, charge a reasonable fee, and simply bank on the majority sticking with the easy 1 click option rather then trying their own server with all that entails. Or otherwise make it very restrictive/expensive. 1Password for example could easily do what many other subscription places have which is offer a purely "enterprise" (so like minimum 500-1000 seat buy or fancy support contract or something) self-hosted options while the commoner plebs are left with in-ze-cloud-sub-only. Whether such a thing ultimately happens or not is a different question, as well as what form it would take. That's the real reason 1Password is considering a self-hosted server option, though that wouldn't fix the shitty app changes. Click to expand.A lot more than that, and critically there are actual enterprise customers for whom self-hosting key infrastructure is now a core requirement (even before we get into more and more national laws that require PII to be hosted within the country's borders).
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